

Two of his close friends are trans and he cannot see past the narrative. I get this thrown at me a lot despite being Gen X She's an intelligent, bright, articulate young lady so I cannot see how she could not agree with the biological arguments. I'm not sure if it is sinking In or whether she actually agrees with me but doesn't want to be seen to be prejudiced. I do try to point out situations in real life where a man identifying as a woman would have an unfair advantage over her, and also where she (and her trans friend) would be unwittingly vulnerable. what kind of person is going to seek relationships with a very troubled, female bodied 'gay Male') and have had to make my stance one of support (both for dd and her friend) because I would rather they felt they could come to me for support. Her trans friend identifies as a gay male and I have had to have very frank discussions with my dd about the reality of life for this person, and to equip her to deal with the potential that her dear friend could be hugely vulnerable in the adult world (ie. She sees her friend as representative of all trans people and is being fed a lot of Internet/woke info from this person. While I do have every compassion for this trans teen, I think they are going through some incredibly difficult things, I have had to be very open with my dd about my feelings in general. They are year 11, this has been going on two years. It stems from having a close friend who is trans (female to Male) and watching and supporting them through their ordeals. I think when people are teens and early 20s it can be hard to truly empathise with something you have never experienced as your brain hasn’t fully matured but it’s very frustrating for others! How old is she? My approach with a 13yo would probably differ from what I would go for with an older teen. It’s horrible to be dismissed and written off, particularly when it relates to views on safeguarding children, which has always been my primary concern about the whole sorry mess. I actually find it very hurtful so I have every sympathy for you. We do get along but only if this isn’t mentioned. There was and is absolutely no reasoning with them or any chance they might see my point of view because they have written me off on that front. Any argument ended with them being more entrenched in their position because once they’d labelled me as a nasty, bigoted t*rf they had to justify it and defend that position at all costs. I just had to grit my teeth and not go there. It is completely off the table now for discussion and I cannot even put anything on social media in case it erupts again. There has been some absolutely dreadful arguments in my family about it all with younger siblings (early 20s). When I mentioned the Cyclepath’s “disown” tweet, she did have the good sense to say that that was just plain stupid. I love her dearly but this just keeps on coming up again and again.

I ended the discussion this evening by telling her that until she fully understands what it means to be a woman and navigate life as a woman in society she would never comprehend why I and so many other women (I didn’t even dare tell her that this includes several relatives and friends) are concerned about the ramifications for women’s rights.Īnd that next time she wants to cite statistics, she would do well to check and cross-check the source first. As you may have guessed, excluding trans women from toilets is where we disagree. I told her that we fundamentally agree on two premises: 1) everyone should be able to live the life that they want to and 2) everyone should be able to do this in a safe space. It doesn’t help that she is incapable of acknowledging that grey areas even exist. I would type out a whole rant here but after two hours of arguing back and forth, I am angry, tired and frustrated. I am so tired of having to listen to my teen who has swallowed the whole Stonewall playbook hook line and sinker.
